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Why two ragas with the same basic notes (e.g. Kalyani or Sankarabharanam) do not sound similar?

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Hi Vinodha, Both ragas are definitel different. Kalyani has got the below swara differentiation in the arohanam and avarohanam: Arohanam: S R2 G3 M2 P D2 N3 S Avarohanam: S N3 D2 P M2 G3 R2 S And Sankarabaranam has got the below swara differentiation in the arohanam and avarohanam: Arohanam: S...
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Hi Vinodha,

Both ragas are definitel different.

Kalyani has got the below swara differentiation in the arohanam and avarohanam:

Arohanam:   S R2 G3 M2 P D2 N3 S
Avarohanam:   S N3 D2 P M2 G3 R2 S

And Sankarabaranam has got the below swara differentiation in the arohanam and avarohanam:

Arohanam:   S R2 G3 M1 P D2 N3 S
Avarohanam:   S N3 D2 P M1 G3 R2 S
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The Gamaka Patterns of notes are important in the difference. In shankarabharanam, one gives more gamakam (or oscillation) to R, M and D, while keeping N and G relatively plain. The reverse is what happens in Kalyani
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no its different
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Any raga depend on the seven notes . A change in a single note that is swara in arohana avarohana differentiates various ragas. Like that the difference in Kalyani and sankrabaranam exist in Madhyamam. Not like my friend teacher who has answered that the difference lies in the gamakam, the total...
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Any raga depend on the seven notes . A change in a single note that is swara in arohana avarohana differentiates various ragas. Like that the difference in Kalyani and sankrabaranam exist in Madhyamam. Not like my friend teacher who has answered that the difference lies in the gamakam, the total structure of the ragam itself is different in kalyani and sankarabaranam. Gamakam can be given to any raga . Gamagam adds the beauty of a raga. Only when it is explained in classes by singing differentiating , one can understand the difference while learning . rgrds suganthi read less
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See it all depends upon the vdi and samvadi.If vadi and samvadi &the chalan of the two ragas having same swaras are different ,the resulting form will sound different
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There is difference in the swara sthanas. I meant the exact scale and frequeny for Kalyani and Sankarabharanam
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Kalyani is a best example for prati madyama raaga and In shankarabharanam, one gives more gamakam (or oscillation) to R, M and D, while keeping N and G relatively plain. Pretty much the reverse is true in Kalyani
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